Piper Aircraft · 1964–1966
Comanche 400
Specifications
Performance
Cruise
175KTAS
75% power @ 0 ft
Range
Not verified
75% power @ 0 ft
Climb
1600fpm
Ceiling
19,500ft
Fuel Burn
20.1gph
75% power @ 0 ft
Fuel Cap.
124gal
MPG
10.0mpg
Stall (Vs0)
59KIAS
T/O roll
980ft
Ldg roll
1180ft
Size & weight
Seats
4
Useful Load
1,490lbs
Full-fuel payload
746lbs
Max gross
3,600lbs
Wingspan
35.98ft
Length
25.7ft
Engine
Engine
Lycoming IO-720-A1A
Power
400hp
TBO
2,000hrs
Overhaul
$70k
Owning it
Hull insurance
$3k/yr
Parts
poor
Mechanics
rare
Gear
Retractable
IFR
Yes
Category
certified
Full specification
V-speeds
Airframe
- Empty weight
- 2,110 lbs
- Max fuel weight
- 744 lbs
- Height
- 7.83 ft
- Wing position
- low
Obstacle performance
- Takeoff over 50 ft
- 1,500 ft
- Landing over 50 ft
- 1,820 ft
Paperwork
- Type certificate
- 1A15
- Certification basis
- CAR Part 3
These figures are typical for the model, not a specification for any individual aircraft. Real-world numbers vary with year, installed equipment, weight, modifications and engine condition — often by more than you would expect. Use them to compare types, and confirm anything you would act on against the Pilot's Operating Handbook for that specific airframe and a prebuy inspection.
Pricing
Typical
$150k
Range
$90k – $220k
Annual all-in
~$36k/yr
All-in at ~100 flying hours a year, using the midpoint of each range — the same figures broken out under “Cost to own” below. Your number will differ, and mostly for two reasons. Experience sets your insurance: a 2,000-hour pilot with recent training pays 30–40% less than a 200-hour owner, and student owners pay 20–40% more — on the same aircraft that is often a doubling. Location sets your hangar: a T-hangar runs $200–400 a month in the Midwest against $400–1,500 in a coastal metro, and an outside tie-down is less again. Engine reserves move too — a local shop reusing your serviceable cylinders can come in 30–50% under the national specialty-shop pricing we quote, though you trade the warranty and turnaround that comes with it. Reserves are money set aside toward a future overhaul, not a bill this year, and the annual inspection figure is the shop’s labor to look — whatever they find is separate.
Cost to own — estimate
Set your yearly hours and local fuel price. Fixed costs (insurance, hangar, annual inspection) don't change with hours; fuel, maintenance and the engine reserve do.
- Fuel (20.1 gph)
- $13,065
- Engine reserve
- $3,500
- Propeller reserve
- $175
- Maintenance, parts & wear items ($22/hr)
- $2,200
- Insurance
- $2,500–$5,000
- Hangar
- $5,548–$13,870
- Annual inspection (labor only)
- $2,500
- Databases & subscriptions
- $700
- Total per year
- $35,599
- Per flight hour
- $356
- Miles flown / year (at cruise)
- 20,139 mi
- Cost per mile
- $1.77/mi
- Time in the air
- 1 hr 43 min
- Fuel burned
- 34 gal
- Out of pocket
- $325
Fuel, engine reserve and wear only. Insurance, hangar and the annual are already paid whether you make the trip or not, so they are not charged here.
Estimate, not a quote. Where a line shows a range, the total, per-hour and per-mile figures use its midpoint— insurance moves most with your experience and time in type, hangar with where you base the aircraft, so your own number could sit at either end. Annual inspection is the shop's labor to open and inspect — what they find is the maintenance line, which covers oil changes, plugs, tires, brakes, hoses, lights, a battery and vacuum pump amortised over their life, and the unscheduled squawks that are the largest and least predictable part of it. Reserves are sinking funds toward an overhaul, not a bill you pay this year — and note that a propeller is due on hours or calendar time, typically six years, so flying less does not put it off forever.
Strengths
- Fastest piston Comanche ever built — 175 KTAS cruise with strong useful load
- Excellent cross-country performer; 1,100–1,150 nm realistic range at typical cruise
- Supported by International Comanche Society; shared airframe/systems with 250/260 family
- Legitimate business-travel alternative to light turboprops at lower acquisition/operating cost
Weaknesses
- Extreme rarity (only 148 built) means thin parts availability and limited shop familiarity
- IO-720 cylinders, cases, and accessories are not stocked like O-540/IO-540 parts
- High fuel burn (20+ GPH) makes short local flights expensive
- Expensive to own and operate; only suitable for serious cross-country flying
Overview
The Piper PA-24-400 is the largest, fastest and rarest member of the Comanche family: an eight-cylinder, 400 hp flagship built for three years (1964-1966) before Hurricane Agnes ended all Comanche production in 1972. Only 148 were built, serial numbers 26-2 through 26-148, on their own type-certificate section (TCDS 1A15 Section III) with a distinctly different fuselage numbering scheme (26-xxx rather than the 24-xxx of the rest of the line) reflecting how different an airplane it is. The Lycoming IO-720-A1A is the only horizontally-opposed eight-cylinder engine Lycoming ever put into general-aviation production -- essentially two IO-360 four-cylinder banks joined on a common crankshaft, displacing 722 cubic inches.
This page exists because the 400 does not belong on the same page as the 250/260 or the 180 (see the main Comanche 250/260 page for the split reasoning): its 3,600 lb gross weight is 12.5% above the 260's 3,200 lb and 41% above the 180's 2,550 lb, its engine is a different cylinder count and displacement class entirely, and its 223 mph top speed and 1,490 lb useful load put it in a genuinely different ownership conversation. An earlier, single conflated Comanche page tried to describe all seven variants -- 180 through 400 -- with one set of numbers; the 400 is the variant that number set fit worst.
The 400 is the fastest fixed-wing single Piper built in the classic Comanche/Cherokee era, and remains a genuinely quick cross-country airplane by modern standards. Its rarity cuts both ways: parts and shop familiarity are thinner than for the 250/260, but the International Comanche Society's support extends to the 400 as well, and the airframe shares most structure, gear system and systems architecture with its six-cylinder siblings.
Variants & History
| Variant | Years | Engine | HP | Gross Weight | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| PA-24-180 | 1958-1964 | Lycoming O-360-A1A | 180 | 2,550 lb | Entry-level Comanche |
| PA-24-250/260 | 1958-1972 | Lycoming O-540/IO-540 | 250-260 | 2,900-3,200 lb | The mainstream Comanche |
| PA-24-400 (this page) | 1964-1966 | Lycoming IO-720-A1A | 400 | 3,600 lb | 8-cylinder flagship; 148 built |
Performance
Source: The Piper Comanche Airplane Owner's Handbook, Piper No. 753 598 (see data/vault/raw/poh/pohaoh753598-pa24-400-2026-09-08.md). At 75% power and sea level, the AOH's own figure is 175 KTAS (202 mph) burning 20.1 GPH. A second 75%-power row is published at "optimum altitude" (213 mph = 185 kt) with no altitude stated, so this page does not use it as a reference figure.
Range is deliberately left off this page's frontmatter. The AOH's only printed range table is keyed to specific ALTITUDES that do not match the sea-level speed row above: 1,315 statute miles (1,143 nm) at 75% power and 8,000 ft, 1,425 mi (1,238 nm) at 65% power and 12,000 ft, and 1,540 mi (1,338 nm) at 55% power and 16,000 ft -- all "with reserve fuel." A pilot planning a real trip in a 400 should expect roughly 1,100-1,150 nm at 75% power flown at a cruise altitude in the 8,000 ft range, which is the closest honest read of Piper's own numbers, but that is a different altitude than the sea-level speed/burn figures this page stores, so the two are not combined into one frontmatter row (runbook rule 3).
Fuel capacity is one place this variant is CLEANER than its siblings: the AOH's 130-gal-total/124-gal-usable figure (100 gal "standard" main tanks + 30 gal auxiliary, 6 gal unusable) matches TCDS 1A15 Section III's own "130 gallons ... (124 gallons usable)" exactly -- no disagreement to record, unlike the 250/260/180 pages in this family.
Climb (1,600 fpm) and takeoff/landing distances (980/1,500 ft takeoff, 1,180/1,820 ft landing) are all sourced directly from the AOH's Section I performance table, at the standard sea-level/gross-weight/flaps-down reference condition.
Payload & Range
| Scenario | Fuel (gal) | Fuel Weight | Payload | Endurance (hr, no reserve) |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Full fuel + 2 pax (170 lb each) | 124 | 744 lb | 340 lb pax, 406 lb remaining | ~6.2 (at 75% power, 20.1 gph) |
| Full fuel + 4 adults (180 lb each) | 124 | 744 lb | 720 lb pax, 26 lb bags | ~6.2 |
Useful load is 1,490 lb (3,600 lb gross minus the AOH's 2,110 lb standard empty weight) -- among the largest in the whole Comanche line, and enough to fill four seats with baggage even at full fuel. Endurance at 75% power (20.1 gph) on 124 usable gallons is a little over six hours before reserves; real trip planning should use Piper's own altitude-specific range table (see Performance Notes) rather than a raw fuel/burn division, since climb fuel and the manufacturer's own reserve allowance are not accounted for in the simple endurance figure above.
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Mission Suitability
Cross-Country (9/10): The fastest way to cover ground in a piston Comanche, full stop. 175+ knots on a large useful load makes long legs genuinely practical, provided the buyer accepts the fuel bill and the thin parts/shop-support market.
Business Travel (8/10): Genuinely competitive with light turboprops on shorter legs, at a fraction of the acquisition and operating cost -- for an owner willing to accept the rarity trade-offs.
Cargo Hauling (7/10): 1,490 lb useful load with 124 gal usable fuel (744 lb) still leaves 746 lb for people and bags -- four adults plus real baggage is realistic.
Local Fun (5/10): Fast and satisfying to fly, but the fuel burn (20+ GPH) makes it an expensive way to fly a short local hop.
Flight Training (1/10): Far too fast, complex and expensive for any primary or complex-endorsement training role.
Backcountry (1/10): Retractable gear, high wing loading and a large prop make this entirely unsuited to unimproved strips.
Aerobatics (1/10): Normal category only.
Surveying (3/10): Low wing and high fuel burn are a poor match for typical survey missions.
Avionics Ecosystem
Shares the Comanche family's wide panel and the same avionics upgrade paths as the 250/260 -- see that page's Avionics Ecosystem section. Given the small population (148 built) and collector status of surviving 400s, panels range from well-preserved originals to fully modernized glass-panel restorations; there is no single "typical" configuration the way there is for the far more numerous 250/260.
STCs & Modifications
The 400's modification ecosystem is thin relative to the 250/260, simply due to population size -- most Comanche STCs (speed mods, gear door seals, LED lighting, avionics mounting kits) were developed against the more numerous six-cylinder airframes and may or may not have specific 400 eligibility. Engine-specific modification options for the IO-720 are essentially nonexistent; this is a "keep it original and well-maintained" airplane, not a modification platform.
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Maintenance & Support
Parts availability is the 400's real weak point: the IO-720 is Lycoming's rarest flat-eight, and cylinder/case/accessory parts specific to it are neither stocked the way O-540/IO-540 parts are nor consistently available new. Any shop working on a 400 benefits enormously from ICS's technical network and parts-sourcing help; a generalist shop with no Comanche-400 experience should not be the first choice for anything beyond routine work.
Valuation Factors
The 400 trades on rarity and speed. It will never be a common airplane, and the buyer pool is correspondingly small and enthusiast-driven -- collectors and serious cross-country pilots who specifically want the fastest piston Comanche, not buyers cross-shopping against a 250/260. Parts scarcity for anything IO-720-specific (versus common Lycoming-family parts) is the main long-term ownership risk and should be priced into any purchase decision.
ADs & Common Problems
Shares the Comanche family's structural ADs (stabilator, wing spar attach points) and the same electro-mechanical landing gear maintenance requirements as the 250/260 -- see the main Comanche 250/260 page. The IO-720's own service history is thinly documented simply because so few were built and flown; a pre-buy on a 400 should lean harder on borescope/compression evidence and logbook completeness than on published fleet-wide statistics, which barely exist for a 148-airplane population.
Insurance Profile
High-performance, complex, retractable, and a rare type an underwriter's own book of business is unlikely to have much experience with -- expect a premium over even the 250/260's already-elevated rates, and expect underwriters to ask pointed questions about total time in type. See GA Insurance Underwriting for category detail.
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